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Narendra Modi: Prime Minister of India - Power, Democracy, War & Peace

In this episode...

> My strength is not my own; it is the collective spirit of 1.4 billion Indians and our rich heritage that I carry with me. "Whenever we speak of peace, the world listens to us," for India is a land of harmony, guided by the teachings of those who believed in non-violence.

> Growing up in poverty taught me resilience, revealing that true strength lies in our ability to accept and embrace challenges. "No matter how dark the night may seem, it is still just night, and morning is bound to come," reminding us that hope always remains.

Introduction

> - Unity in diversity is the strength of our nation. I firmly believe, "India's diversity is its strength. It is not our weakness, but a source of pride."

> - Building bridges is crucial in today's world. As I always say, "We have to work together as Team Humanity, bridging gaps and breaking barriers for a harmonious world."

> - Empathy towards all is a guiding principle. I live by the motto, "Treat everyone with kindness and empathy, irrespective of their background or status."

Fasting

> Fasting is not just about abstaining from food; it’s a profound discipline that connects the body and mind, sharpening my senses and enhancing my awareness. "Every single one of your senses becomes highly sensitive," allowing for a deeper appreciation of the world around me. It's a transformative journey that began in my youth, inspired by a sense of purpose and devotion, shaped by personal experiences rather than mere tradition.

> My practice of fasting is deeply rooted in cultural traditions, particularly during significant periods like Chaturmas and Navratri, where I commit to structured fasting routines. For me, "this has become a deeply ingrained tradition in my life," one that I have followed for over 50 years, intertwining spirituality and discipline seamlessly into my role as a leader.

> Sharing my fasting experiences with others is essential; they serve as a tool for self-discipline that can inspire and benefit anyone who is open to it. When President Obama witnessed me fasting during our meeting, it sparked a light-hearted moment that transcended cultural boundaries, demonstrating that fasting can resonate universally, "helping someone" through personal experience is always worth sharing.

Early life

> My upbringing in a small village with rich history shaped my perspective on heritage and culture.

> Despite growing up in extreme poverty, my family's values of hard work, discipline, and simplicity have deeply influenced me.

> The spirit of empathy and service instilled by my mother and the lessons learned from my humble beginnings have guided my journey in politics and public service.

Advice to Young People

> To all the young people out there, remember this: "No matter how dark the night may seem, it is still just night, and morning is bound to come." Challenges are not meant to defeat you; they are opportunities for growth and testing your endurance. Always embrace patience and self-confidence, as "there are no shortcuts in life," and every effort you put in should be with passion and commitment.

> It’s also vital to nurture your curiosity and never let the student within you die. "Instead of dreaming about getting and becoming, dream of doing something." Focus on your actions and contributions; true contentment arises from what you give to the world, not just what you achieve for yourself.

Journey in the Himalayas

> Growing up in a small town, surrounded by a tight-knit community, shaped my early desires for a purposeful life. Reading about inspirational figures like Swami Vivekananda and Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj ignited a curiosity in me about how to build a remarkable life.

> Experiments with physical endurance from a young age, like sleeping outside in the cold winter nights, and being inspired by Vivekananda's selfless act before Goddess Kali, instilled in me the idea of giving to the world and recognizing the unity between the divine and living beings.

> The time spent in the Himalayas, meeting remarkable saints and ascetics, embracing solitude, and serving people with devotion, strengthened me internally, helping me discover my inner power and shaping the path towards understanding the purpose of life and my role in society.

Becoming a monk

> Life's true purpose is found in service. For me, every role I've played—from caring for children alongside my mother to leading the nation—stems from a deep, unwavering spiritual commitment. This inner consistency ties my past and present together, showing that whether as a monk or a Prime Minister, the heart is dedicated to serving others.

> I don't see a divide between being a leader and being a saint. While the roles and responsibilities may differ, the essence of who I am remains unchanged. Each action I take is infused with calm focus and dedication, reflecting that spirit of service that's been with me through every chapter of my life.

RSS and Hindu nationalism

> I always had the habit of staying engaged in something, like listening to patriotic songs as a child, which led me to join the RSS. The RSS instilled in us the core value of doing everything with a purpose, whether it's studying, exercising, or serving the nation.

> The RSS serves as a massive volunteer organization that provides a clear direction and purpose in life. It emphasizes that serving the people is equivalent to serving God, echoing the teachings of sages and spiritual leaders.

> RSS-trained volunteers have established numerous initiatives like Seva Bharti and Vanvasi Kalyan Ashram that serve marginalized communities and prioritize education and values. The RSS has also transformed the labor movement ideology, emphasizing "Workers Unite the World," reflecting a significant ideological shift.

Explaining India

> India is not just a nation; it embodies a profound cultural identity rooted in thousands of years of civilization, reflecting immense diversity through its many languages, customs, and traditions. Yet, beneath this vibrant tapestry lies a common thread that connects us all—stories and rituals, like the reverberating name of ‘Ram’ and the powerful act of bathing in sacred rivers, symbolize our unity in diversity.

> While other nations may prioritize administrative systems, India's strength has always been its cultural bonds, with pilgrimage traditions serving as a living testament to our collective identity. From the establishment of the four pilgrimage sites by Shankaracharya to the daily rituals of invoking the universe in our homes, these practices sustain our unity, reminding us that we are part of something much larger than ourselves.

Mahatma Gandhi

> Mahatma Gandhi's influence on India's independence movement was profound. His principles of truth and inclusivity transformed ordinary citizens into freedom fighters, creating a mass movement that even the British couldn't fully grasp.

> Mahatma Gandhi's legacy transcends centuries, carrying the timeless traditions and aspirations of billions. When engaging in geopolitics, my strength lies not in my name but in the backing of 1.4 billion Indians and our timeless culture. The essence of thousands of years of heritage accompanies me wherever I go.

> In global interactions, my approach is rooted in respect, positivity, and shared welfare. Initiatives like the International Solar Alliance and advocating for global well-being through concepts like "One Earth, One Health" aim to foster harmony and collaboration on a global scale. Synchronizing efforts with others is crucial, as no country can thrive in isolation in today's interconnected world.

Path to peace in Ukraine

> I represent a nation rooted in the teachings of Lord Buddha and Mahatma Gandhi, two icons of peace. "Indians aren't hardwired to espouse strife and conflict," and that profound commitment to harmony gives us a unique voice in global dialogues, especially when both war and suffering affect so many, including the Global South.

> My approach to making peace centers on meaningful dialogue, and I convey to leaders like President Putin and President Zelensky that true resolution "will only come when both Ukraine and Russia come to the negotiating table." I stand firmly with peace, recognizing this is more than mere neutrality—it's a call for unity in these challenging times.

India and Pakistan

> I strongly believe that peace is the only way forward for India and Pakistan. Despite our efforts, peace talks have been met with hostility and betrayal. We hope that wisdom prevails and they choose the path of peace, for the sake of both our nations and the world.

> My invitation to the swearing-in ceremony was a historic gesture of goodwill towards Pakistan. It was a clear message of India's commitment to peace and harmony. Despite the outcome not meeting our expectations, we will continue to strive for better relations with hope for a peaceful future.

Cricket and Football

> Sports have an unparalleled ability to bring people together and energize communities across nations. “I truly believe that sports play a major role in human evolution,” as they connect us on deeper levels, transcending mere competition.

> Reflecting on my visit to a tribal community in Madhya Pradesh, I was captivated by their love for football, calling their village "Mini Brazil." This passion illustrates how, even in remote areas, sports foster unity and inspire greatness, with nearly 80 national-level players emerging from just one village. It reassures me of the positive effects sports can have on society.

Donald Trump

> - The bond with President Trump is based on mutual trust and shared values, exemplified by moments like walking together in a crowd without hesitation, showing courage, and dedication to their nations. The personal connection and respect for each other's countries have strengthened their friendship.

> - Prioritizing the interests of India in negotiations reflects my commitment to serve my nation and honor the responsibility bestowed upon me by its people. Advocating for India's interests positively and respectfully has been well received, knowing that my High Command is the people of India.

> - Reflecting on my interactions during my visit to the United States, observing President Trump's preparedness, vision, and strong team, and engaging with individuals like Elon Musk in warm, familial atmospheres, emphasized the importance of making bold changes to eliminate inefficiencies and improve governance, similar to the impactful reforms implemented in India.

China and Xi Jinping

> The ancient relationship between India and China, rooted in mutual learning and cultural exchange, must evolve into a partnership focused on dialogue and understanding, as “differences are natural” and should not escalate into disputes. We are committed to restoring trust and normalcy at our borders, emphasizing that “competition is not a bad thing,” but it should be healthy and not lead to conflict.

> The global landscape has become increasingly fragmented post-COVID, revealing that “modern wars are no longer just about resources or interests,” and international institutions are failing. It is crucial for nations to embrace “cooperation” over conflict; in our interconnected world, we must recognize that “no one can stand alone” and work together for collective prosperity and stability.

Gujarat riots in 2002

> I believe that genuine criticism is fundamental to democracy. Critics should be your nearest companions, helping you improve and work democratically with better insights. Criticism is the soul of democracy, and I welcome it openly.

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> Genuine criticism requires thorough study, deep research, and careful analysis. Allegations and accusations should not be mistaken for real criticism. For a strong democracy, insightful criticism is necessary to fuel progress and development.

> Constructive and well-directed criticism aids in effective policy-making and leads to a clear policy vision. I actively pay attention to such criticism and believe it plays a crucial role in understanding the complexities of those in power, highlighting both strengths and flaws.

> Journalism should aim to be like a bee, seeking truth and spreading sweetness, yet capable of delivering a powerful sting when needed. Deliberately twisting the truth for personal motives damages the integrity of journalism and the essence of truth itself.

Biggest democracy in the world

> Leading in a democracy like India is a sacred duty; I strive to fulfill it with unwavering dedication, honoring the trust the people have placed in me. "My government is committed to ensuring welfare schemes reach every citizen," treating each individual equally, so everyone feels valued and believes they too will benefit.

> My governance transcends elections; it is rooted in the people and committed to their well-being. I view my nation as divine, and my heart is devoted to serving my fellow citizens. "If you work hard, I will work harder," creating an atmosphere of mutual trust and dedication.

> The logistics of our elections are astounding, a true testament to our democracy. With nearly a billion voters, I am proud of how we ensure that all voices are heard, even in remote areas. Our electoral process sets a global benchmark, showcasing India's commitment to free and fair elections, a story that should inspire future generations worldwide.

Power

> I believe true power lies in service, not in seeking power itself. My focus is on productivity and making a positive change in people's lives.

> Loneliness is not a feeling I experience. I embrace the philosophy of one plus one, where one represents me and the other the Almighty. I find solace in serving people, and I stay engaged through meaningful connections, even in challenging times like the pandemic.

Hard work

> I draw immense inspiration from the hard work of the people around me—farmers, soldiers, laborers, and especially the mothers and sisters who dedicate their lives to their families. Their tireless efforts motivate me to keep pushing forward; I often think, "How can I sleep or relax when they are out there, working so hard?"

> Moreover, my responsibilities towards my fellow citizens serve as a constant reminder that I’m not here for personal gain. I made a promise to never fall short in my efforts, to act with integrity, and to prioritize the needs of 1.4 billion people. This commitment fuels my determination to serve my country relentlessly, and I remain driven by the aspiration to fulfill their dreams and address their needs wholeheartedly.

Srinivasa Ramanujan

> Srinivasa Ramanujan's deep connection between science and spirituality is truly inspiring. His belief that ideas emerge from spiritual discipline emphasizes the importance of immersing oneself completely in a task to truly understand it. This resonates with me as I see the value in being open to diverse sources of knowledge to cultivate innovative ideas. Understanding the distinction between information and knowledge is crucial - knowledge evolves through reflection and understanding, not merely through collecting information.

Decision-making process

> My decision-making is deeply rooted in my extensive travels across the country, allowing me to gain first-hand knowledge of grassroots issues. Carrying no baggage helps me stay focused, always prioritizing what is best for my nation and its citizens.

> Guided by Mahatma Gandhi’s wisdom, I consistently remind myself of the poorest person's face, asking, “Will this help them?” This clarity drives my choices, ensuring that my actions have a positive impact on the most vulnerable.

> I embrace a learner's mindset and actively seek diverse perspectives while taking ownership of my decisions. Trust is built when people see that my intentions are pure, even when outcomes don't go as planned; they know I will stand by my commitments and strive for the common good.

AI

> India holds a unique position in AI development because, as I shared at the AI Summit, "No matter what the world does with AI, it will remain incomplete without India." This collaboration, rather than individual efforts, is crucial for AI advancement. India's vast talent pool and its focus on practical application make it a strong contender in the AI space.

> The rich cultural values of dedication, ethics, and collaboration deeply ingrained in Indian professionals contribute to their success on the global stage. This ethos of giving their best regardless of their role and fostering strong team relationships sets them apart. Indians' problem-solving abilities, analytical skills, and cost-effective innovations, such as in the space sector, are highly valued worldwide.

> While AI raises questions about the future role of humans, I believe that human creativity, imagination, compassion, and unique abilities like caring for others will always set us apart from AI. Technology may evolve, but the essence of what makes us human will continue to drive innovation and progress in ways that machines cannot replicate.

Education

> The significant pressure students face today stems from a societal mindset that equates success with exam rankings. "It’s my duty to listen to them, understand them, and ease their burden." A child's worth should not be tied solely to their scores; many possess unique talents and strengths beyond academics.

> True learning comes from genuine curiosity and engagement, not merely chasing grades. I treasure the innovative teaching methods from my childhood, like how a teacher used playful tasks to encourage counting and creativity, which we've now incorporated into our education policy to foster joyful learning.

> Trust in oneself is crucial for success; "never lose faith in your own abilities." Focusing on skill enhancement will open doors to opportunities. Life's purpose often lies in how we connect our passions to a greater mission, allowing us to inspire and uplift others along our journey.

Learning and focus

> One key to learning is to be fully present in the moment, "I learn by being fully present... This complete focus allows me to grasp new concepts quickly." Embracing the present sharpens the mind and enhances learning.

> Fear of death is natural, but embracing life is essential, "Life and death are two sides of a coin, but which of the two is more certain? Death." By enriching life with purpose, one can flourish without worrying about the inevitability of death.

Mantra

> Chanting the Gayatri Mantra is a journey into the radiant power of the Sun, and it holds a significant place in my spiritual practice. It is more than just words; “each woven into different facets of life,” it connects us with the universe and fosters enlightenment.

> Incorporating daily mantras into our lives brings “profound and lasting benefits,” enhancing our spirituality and understanding of the world around us. They guide us towards a deeper connection with nature and self.

Meditation

> In the depths of meditation, it's about freeing oneself from distractions and being present in the moment, not about being an enlightened being. It's like tuning into a divine resonance that leads to deep focus and concentration.

> Hindu mantras like Om purnamadah emphasize completeness in life and universal well-being, always ending with the beautiful wish for peace. These rituals connect us to the essence of life, deriving from the profound spiritual practices of sages over thousands of years.

Lex visiting India

> My travels through India, particularly in Delhi, were a profound revelation of the vibrant human experience; "even when they didn't speak English, it was always easy to understand" — it showed me that emotional connections often transcend language and cultural differences.

> Observing the chaotic yet harmonious traffic reminded me of "the world's most difficult test for self-driving cars," which reflects the beautiful complexity of life in India, where everything, despite the apparent disorder, operates like "a perfectly tuned orchestra."

Siddhartha

> "Reading 'Siddhartha' by Herman Hesse introduced me to Eastern philosophy and a new way of looking at life's puzzles. Hesse's personal struggles mirrored the journey of the main character, Siddhartha, making it a story of psychological survival and enlightenment."

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> "One key lesson from 'Siddhartha' is the interconnectedness of time and existence. The scene by the river taught me that while time may seem linear, in reality, everything exists simultaneously, merging the momentary and eternal aspects of life."

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> "Hesse’s insight on the importance of experiencing life directly rather than blindly following others or relying solely on books deeply resonated with me. It highlighted the distinction between knowledge, which can be taught, and wisdom, which is gathered through personal experiences, even in moments of mistakes and suffering, essential for growth."